The Temple

Oprah & Eckhart – Oprah’s Beliefs

Apparently God has no say in what God thinks…we each define it for ourselves. This removal of any personality in God defaults into a pantheistic spiritualism: we all can create our godness, because everything is god and connecting to this god is entirely personal and individual. Ultimately connecting with god is no different than knowing myself.

The anti-ideology approach is an interesting one: beliefs are bad, I mean all beliefs except the ones I create and oh, those aren’t beliefs because all beliefs are bad, except the ones I hold…Can this be more obtuse.

Why is Oprah an expert on “spirituality”?  We are so attracted to personality and celebrity that we will listen to actors for advice on everything from politics to religion.  Pathetic.

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April 7, 2008 - Posted by | Christianity

8 Comments »

  1. Pathetic indeed!

    Comment by Ellen | April 8, 2008 | Reply

  2. Spiritual teachers must generate some interest in self experimentation or at least provide the opportunity for
    investigation and questions to those interested. Thus, Tolle uses “words” – tools that inadequately only point
    to the truth. He and many other spirtual teachers in this
    tradition warn of hanging onto words (and the beliefs they engender that ego’s need to feel safe and secure).

    However, unfortunately, people are so identified with words and beliefs – as the very substance of who they are -it is very difficult for them to see deeper than these superficial crutches. It is okay to have these crutches too. But at some level, one person’s crutch is mutually exclusive to another’s. Thus, people will defend their beliefs as if it were actually thier own lives that they are defending. Thus, the road to hell is paved with righteous intentions.

    Thus, no one will get anything out of simply reading the book. Ultimately, they must practice the techniques of meditation to see for themselves what is true and what isn’t – to what works and what doesn’t. It is truly a subjective truth through consensus. That is why, eastern religions do not evangelize or prostylze. They wait till the seeker is ready on their own terms and accept people at what level they ready to see, without moral judgment.

    Comment by janek | April 8, 2008 | Reply

  3. Oprah really grinds my gears, Steve.

    She’s more of a god to her followers than the create-your-own-God she endorses on the tube.

    It’s scaring me.

    Comment by Jeff Locke | April 8, 2008 | Reply

  4. Janek,

    A few observations. You used an awful lot of words to communicate what you believe to be truth.

    I must medidtate on your words to see if they are true…waiting…waiting…I deem them false by your standard. Mmmmh???

    Apparently you should simply accept my western ways without judgment instead of calling me shallow and judging my crutches as superficial.

    The bottom line is that you cannot have it both ways. What you want to believe is what you want to believe. At least Islam recognizes the limitation of humanity as creation and the need for submission to God. And as for the claim that Eastern Religions do not evangelize or proselytize…well the “business” of religion has certainly caught Oprah’s attention and I am sure that Mr. Tolle is happy to lean on her “crutch” to cash in on his books. The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who just died made TM famous on US College Campuses and was no stranger to marketing by hooking up with the Beatles. Deepak Chopra is not sitting idly by waiting for people to come to him. So please don’t Baloney Sandwich yourself.

    Please don’t deign to claim that you are lacking judgmentalism, or that judging truth claims is somehow illegitimate with regard to spirituality. All you have done is elevated the self to the place of God, and open the door for nonsensical statements to be held up as spiritual insight. There is truth and there is falsehood in spiritual circles. All systems of religion/spirituality have doctrines and beliefs. You hold to yours as stiffly as any fundamentalist.

    Comment by Steve Bagdanov | April 8, 2008 | Reply

  5. Have no fear Jeff. Simply change the channel and watch Ellen.

    Comment by Steve Bagdanov | April 8, 2008 | Reply

  6. I agree with Jeff…it is scary!

    Comment by Sherryl | April 9, 2008 | Reply

  7. Hey! I’m not on tv yet..
    He could tune in to my blog.

    Comment by Ellen | April 9, 2008 | Reply

  8. huh? it’s all babble to me…
    and not be caddie but… Eckhart speak English – and don’t talk with your mouth full!
    oh and how cool to be a “free thinking Christian”…
    what about truth?
    geez….

    Comment by Leonard | April 22, 2008 | Reply


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